Comments on: The Never-Ending Beta http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/ Breathtaking in its unremarkability. Fri, 21 May 2010 11:22:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Eyram Tawia http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Eyram Tawia Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:41:01 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-50 hi guys, I've also been waitn for 6.5 for over 2yrs now. In fact i used 6.2 to for my final year project work SWORD OF SYGOS in 2006 with VB.net which was actually supposed to be done with tv6.5. 6.5 really sounds promising but personally I think it has kept too long. 2yrs is a lot of time to waste. I committed serious adultery moving from engine to engine trying to write my 1st commercial game(soccer game) and ended up with XNA which I also realized is strictly for hobbyist and microsoft wouldn't sell the commercial version to small companies. Because of my loyalty to .NET, I returned to my good friends Truevision3D hoping to see TV6.5 released! I was so much disappointed to see 6.5 still in beta mode and must annoying, the website hadn't changed 1 bit. I took courage to read thru the same beta features and development videos and fell in love all over again with 6.5. I quickly asked a friend in the US to buy me a license to 6.3 so i can have access to 6.5 and he did. Thinking my soccer game is almost about to begin, i found that, the audio and network classes are not available. HOW? darqSHADOW , seriousely speaking I think you guys should just put yourself in my shoes and imagine what i felt! My company is supposed to finish this soccer game early nxt year and yet still, our main engine isn't out! I hope latest by next 2mnts we shd have something. I dont want to use the network or tvmedia 6.2 for this bcos we want it in pure .NET. After buying the engine i realised you blog support fr 6.5 beta are too old. most of the posts were made in 2004/2005. How annoying. After paying money just to realise your support is way back 2yrs ago. I'm making this complain here instead of your official site to make you understand me better. I'm a serious fun of TV3d and nothing is going to change that! But please make us happy..... I also need a site that i can find sample codes on implementing physics in 6.5. can anyone help? hi guys,
I’ve also been waitn for 6.5 for over 2yrs now. In fact i used 6.2 to for my final year project work SWORD OF SYGOS in 2006 with VB.net which was actually supposed to be done with tv6.5.
6.5 really sounds promising but personally I think it has kept too long. 2yrs is a lot of time to waste. I committed serious adultery moving from engine to engine trying to write my 1st commercial game(soccer game) and ended up with XNA which I also realized is strictly for hobbyist and microsoft wouldn’t sell the commercial version to small companies. Because of my loyalty to .NET, I returned to my good friends Truevision3D hoping to see TV6.5 released! I was so much disappointed to see 6.5 still in beta mode and must annoying, the website hadn’t changed 1 bit. I took courage to read thru the same beta features and development videos and fell in love all over again with 6.5.
I quickly asked a friend in the US to buy me a license to 6.3 so i can have access to 6.5 and he did. Thinking my soccer game is almost about to begin, i found that, the audio and network classes are not available. HOW? darqSHADOW , seriousely speaking I think you guys should just put yourself in my shoes and imagine what i felt! My company is supposed to finish this soccer game early nxt year and yet still, our main engine isn’t out! I hope latest by next 2mnts we shd have something. I dont want to use the network or tvmedia 6.2 for this bcos we want it in pure .NET.
After buying the engine i realised you blog support fr 6.5 beta are too old. most of the posts were made in 2004/2005. How annoying. After paying money just to realise your support is way back 2yrs ago.
I’m making this complain here instead of your official site to make you understand me better.
I’m a serious fun of TV3d and nothing is going to change that! But please make us happy…..
I also need a site that i can find sample codes on implementing physics in 6.5. can anyone help?

]]> By: The continuing death-spiral of TV3D « Cal Jacobson’s Blog http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-43 The continuing death-spiral of TV3D « Cal Jacobson’s Blog Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:59:49 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-43 [...] continuing death-spiral of TV3D Jump to Comments Preface I’ve written about the Truevision3D (TV3D) engine before, and I’d like to stress again that my disclaimer still applies. My inability to find a good, [...] [...] continuing death-spiral of TV3D Jump to Comments Preface I’ve written about the Truevision3D (TV3D) engine before, and I’d like to stress again that my disclaimer still applies. My inability to find a good, [...]

]]> By: Nope, I’m still alive… « Cal Jacobson’s Blog http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Nope, I’m still alive… « Cal Jacobson’s Blog Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:35:25 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-44 [...] Seven months later, Truevision3D 6.5 is still nowhere to be seen by the non-paying public. [...] [...] Seven months later, Truevision3D 6.5 is still nowhere to be seen by the non-paying public. [...]

]]> By: BallRaider http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-48 BallRaider Fri, 04 May 2007 11:46:26 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-48 darqSHADOW wrote: January 12th, 2007 at 10:18 am "I believe we are on the right path, and the next few weeks will prove this in many peoples eyes." 16 weeks =4 months = 1/3 year ... and still waiting :( darqSHADOW wrote:
January 12th, 2007 at 10:18 am

“I believe we are on the right path, and the next few weeks will prove this in many peoples eyes.”

16 weeks =4 months = 1/3 year … and still waiting :(

]]> By: Balkanized http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Balkanized Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:44:07 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-47 I think the main problem is that the team is made of only 2 people, and only one of them is doing some work while other is acting bossy... and that they do it in free time. I think the main problem is that the team is made of only 2 people, and only one of them is doing some work while other is acting bossy… and that they do it in free time.

]]> By: jr http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-46 jr Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:03:55 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-46 darqSHADOW wrote: ", and the next few weeks will prove this in many peoples eyes." we go count these >>> NEXT FEW WEEKS darqSHADOW wrote:

“, and the next few weeks will prove this in many peoples eyes.”

we go count these >>> NEXT FEW WEEKS

]]> By: jr http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-45 jr Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:31:06 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-45 "why don’t they stop complaining and give a little back by purchasing a 6.X license" buy something without testing before? for God’s sake!!! imagine how many years for the new versions 6.6,6.7,...,7.x “why don’t they stop complaining and give a little back by purchasing a 6.X license”

buy something without testing before?
for God’s sake!!!

imagine how many years for the new versions 6.6,6.7,…,7.x

]]> By: cdjaco http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-49 cdjaco Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:22:08 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-49 JohnB: thanks for reading my post. It is clear that you've obviously paid close attention to the points I've made. darqSHADOW: I appreciate you taking the time to respond, and I'm glad you did not take this as a personal attack. That said, I stand by my statement "if your product has been in a closed beta for well over two years, you are doing something wrong." NOTHING, short of a major operating system, should remain in beta for more than 24 months: if it has, then you've bitten off too much to chew. This doesn't mean the project should be scrapped or the work to date is pointless. What it *should* signal is that the schedule or features need a serious rework. And if you have a user base, you MUST communicate with them. Frequently. JohnB: thanks for reading my post. It is clear that you’ve obviously paid close attention to the points I’ve made.

darqSHADOW: I appreciate you taking the time to respond, and I’m glad you did not take this as a personal attack.

That said, I stand by my statement “if your product has been in a closed beta for well over two years, you are doing something wrong.” NOTHING, short of a major operating system, should remain in beta for more than 24 months: if it has, then you’ve bitten off too much to chew.

This doesn’t mean the project should be scrapped or the work to date is pointless. What it *should* signal is that the schedule or features need a serious rework. And if you have a user base, you MUST communicate with them. Frequently.

]]> By: JohnB http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-56 JohnB Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:19:04 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-56 Everyone's entitled to their own opinion... and the release of TV3D 6.5 has been a very long time comming. That said, it seems to me that the people who complain the most about the wait are the people that use the free version. They haven't paid anything to support the dev team or TV3D as a product. It takes a lot of time, money & effort to create and maintain a product like TV3D. I think the devs are very generous to provide the free versions, especially with so few linitations & watermarks. If they really want to start using 6.5 now, why don't they stop complaining and give a little back by purchasing a 6.X license - which includes access to the 6.5 beta? John B. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion… and the release of TV3D 6.5 has been a very long time comming.

That said, it seems to me that the people who complain the most about the wait are the people that use the free version. They haven’t paid anything to support the dev team or TV3D as a product. It takes a lot of time, money & effort to create and maintain a product like TV3D. I think the devs are very generous to provide the free versions, especially with so few linitations & watermarks.

If they really want to start using 6.5 now, why don’t they stop complaining and give a little back by purchasing a 6.X license – which includes access to the 6.5 beta?

John B.

]]> By: Raine http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Raine Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:06:51 +0000 http://blog.caljacobson.com/2006/12/11/the-never-ending-beta/#comment-55 As a final note, I'd like to say that TV3D - no matter when - will allow non-pro people to realize a long-standing dream... game development! It takes effort, but with TV3D it'll be so much feasible. I'm out now. :) *waves at everyone* As a final note, I’d like to say that TV3D – no matter when – will allow non-pro people to realize a long-standing dream… game development! It takes effort, but with TV3D it’ll be so much feasible.
I’m out now. :) *waves at everyone*

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